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[Scion]
2004-05-03 00:56:06 UTC
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Hey guys, I'm not exactly new to the group, but I've only lurked before
this post...so lemme just go ahead and introduce myself. I'm Scion, and
I've been following Delirious for about four years now. I got into them
because I'm a huge U2 fan and I had a friend who compared them favorably
to his favorite band at the time, Delirious. He played Mezzamorphis for
me and I was hooked, immediately. That's still my favorite album of
theirs.

Anyway, enough rambling about me. I need your help. I'm trying to pass
the Delirious love along, so I'm making a sampler CD for one of my
friends. I have a rough tracklist, but it seems to be missing some oomph.
I dunno, I just don't feel like I'm channeling the D: spirit well enough.
Maybe you guys could suggest some live tracks I could work into it?

Anyway, here's the tracklist I've worked up so far:

1. Feel It Coming On
2. God's Romance
3. I'm Not Ashamed [from Deeper compilation]
4. Deeper 99 [the orig. version's lost its freshness, for me]
5. It's OK
6. Mountains High
7. Sanctify
8. Rain Down
9. Gravity
10. Bliss [live from Access: D]
11. My Glorious
12. History Maker
13. I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever [Deeper version]
14. Pride (In The Name Of Love) [from ITNOL: Artist United For Africa]
15. Jesus' Blood
16. Touch [demo from Roaring Lambs compilation]

I'm skewing it too heavily towards Mezza, but that's okay because Mezza
got pretty much overlooked in the Deeper collection. I'll expand this to
a double-disc set if you guys can give me some good ideas.
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~Scion
Trevour
2004-05-03 06:12:45 UTC
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Post by [Scion]
1. Feel It Coming On
2. God's Romance
3. I'm Not Ashamed [from Deeper compilation]
4. Deeper 99 [the orig. version's lost its freshness, for me]
5. It's OK
6. Mountains High
7. Sanctify
8. Rain Down
9. Gravity
10. Bliss [live from Access: D]
11. My Glorious
12. History Maker
13. I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever [Deeper version]
14. Pride (In The Name Of Love) [from ITNOL: Artist United For Africa]
15. Jesus' Blood
16. Touch [demo from Roaring Lambs compilation]
I'm skewing it too heavily towards Mezza, but that's okay because Mezza
got pretty much overlooked in the Deeper collection. I'll expand this to
a double-disc set if you guys can give me some good ideas.
Good tracklist so far... I'd say throw some 'Audio Lessonover?' tracks on
there and you're set! Such as 'Alien' and 'Take Me Away.' Perhaps some of
the b-sides too if you've got them. Just to show some more diversity. ^_^

Trevour
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[Scion]
2004-05-04 02:01:04 UTC
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Does "Trevour" <***@floodsmyinbox.org> listen to pop music because he's
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
Good tracklist so far... I'd say throw some 'Audio Lessonover?' tracks
on there and you're set! Such as 'Alien' and 'Take Me Away.' Perhaps
some of the b-sides too if you've got them. Just to show some more
diversity. ^_^
Well, I'm a Stateside fan, so getting hold of Audio Lessonover takes some
doing. But I do have the AL cousin, Touch, so maybe I'll throw TMA or
Waiting For The Summer on there. It's just that TMA and WFTS don't really
mesh well with the praise/worship flow of the rest of the disc.

Do you, like me, hate what they did to Touch when they rereleased it as
AL's opening track? I thought the Roaring Lambs demo had more teeth,
myself.
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~Scion
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"One man's creative laboratory is another man's license to wank."
--Bill Flanagan

scion238 AT phreaker DOT net
Trevour
2004-05-05 03:03:59 UTC
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Post by [Scion]
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
Good tracklist so far... I'd say throw some 'Audio Lessonover?' tracks
on there and you're set! Such as 'Alien' and 'Take Me Away.' Perhaps
some of the b-sides too if you've got them. Just to show some more
diversity. ^_^
Well, I'm a Stateside fan, so getting hold of Audio Lessonover takes some
doing. But I do have the AL cousin, Touch, so maybe I'll throw TMA or
Waiting For The Summer on there. It's just that TMA and WFTS don't really
mesh well with the praise/worship flow of the rest of the disc.
I'm a Stateside fan as well. ;-)
Post by [Scion]
Do you, like me, hate what they did to Touch when they rereleased it as
AL's opening track? I thought the Roaring Lambs demo had more teeth,
myself.
Well no hate there, actually I enjoyed the 'Touch' version of 'Touch.' ^_^
To me it just sounds like a little more polished track, production-wise.
Both are very similar arrangement-wise, as opposed to the original b-side
(on deEPer).

Trevour
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www.deliriousland.net
[Scion]
2004-05-05 03:35:43 UTC
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Does "Trevour" <***@floodsmyinbox.org> listen to pop music because he's
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
Post by [Scion]
Do you, like me, hate what they did to Touch when they rereleased it
as AL's opening track? I thought the Roaring Lambs demo had more
teeth, myself.
Well no hate there, actually I enjoyed the 'Touch' version of 'Touch.'
^_^ To me it just sounds like a little more polished track,
production-wise. Both are very similar arrangement-wise, as opposed to
the original b-side (on deEPer).
See...I don't really think that track called for a spit-shine polish. I
liked the Roaring Lambs version because it didn't have the "Touch"
production working it over. I thought most of AL/Touch's production
was...iffy, and detracted from the songs themselves. It almost sounded
like they were trying to be Skillet or something.
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~Scion
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"One man's creative laboratory is another man's license to wank."
--Bill Flanagan

scion238 AT phreaker DOT net
Trevour
2004-05-07 02:10:25 UTC
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Post by [Scion]
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
Post by [Scion]
Do you, like me, hate what they did to Touch when they rereleased it
as AL's opening track? I thought the Roaring Lambs demo had more
teeth, myself.
Well no hate there, actually I enjoyed the 'Touch' version of 'Touch.'
^_^ To me it just sounds like a little more polished track,
production-wise. Both are very similar arrangement-wise, as opposed to
the original b-side (on deEPer).
See...I don't really think that track called for a spit-shine polish. I
liked the Roaring Lambs version because it didn't have the "Touch"
production working it over. I thought most of AL/Touch's production
was...iffy, and detracted from the songs themselves. It almost sounded
like they were trying to be Skillet or something.
AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all (and keep in mind it is
SIGNIFICANTLY different from 'Touch'), so I have nothing more to say. ^_^

Trevour
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ziL
2004-05-07 02:32:44 UTC
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AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all (and keep in mind it
is SIGNIFICANTLY different from 'Touch'), so I have nothing more to
say. ^_^
Really?? You're the only person I've found who says that! Anyone else
lurking out there with the same view... ?
--
ziL
Dave Wood
2004-05-07 08:03:04 UTC
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Post by ziL
Post by Trevour
AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all
Really?? You're the only person I've found who says that! Anyone else
lurking out there with the same view... ?
*out of lurking mode*

Yes! I'm with Trevour on this. Before World Service came out, AL was
my favourite d: album. (I'm now undecided which I prefer, WS or AL, as
both are equally good imho) The one thing I would say on the whole
AL/Touch issue though, is that if I could combine the best aspects
from both those CDs, then it'd be a winner for sure. Give me the
changed versions of WFTS and Compass from Touch anyday, over the
original versions on AL. But I wouldn't like to say Touch is the
better album, since it misses some excellant tracks.

And since I'm out of lurk mode, I'll contribute to the live album
debate. Access:d wins by a mile for me. L&ITC was good for its time,
but I never really felt it hung together all that well as an album,
and its now just a bit too out of date. D:Tour is great, but just not
enough on it. Access:d just has everything, sounds fantastic, and is
the closest you could ever get to capturing a d: gig on CD. Delirious?
live are a hundred times better than Delirious? on CD. But on Access:d
they come pretty close to giving you that amazing live experience.

DAVE!!
http://www.delirious.org.uk
ziL
2004-05-07 13:18:16 UTC
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Post by Dave Wood
Post by ziL
Post by Trevour
AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all
Really?? You're the only person I've found who says that! Anyone
else lurking out there with the same view... ?
*out of lurking mode*
Yes! I'm with Trevour on this. Before World Service came out, AL was
my favourite d: album. (I'm now undecided which I prefer, WS or AL, as
both are equally good imho) The one thing I would say on the whole
AL/Touch issue though, is that if I could combine the best aspects
from both those CDs, then it'd be a winner for sure. Give me the
changed versions of WFTS and Compass from Touch anyday, over the
original versions on AL. But I wouldn't like to say Touch is the
better album, since it misses some excellant tracks.
I-i-iiinteresting..... ! I've still not got World Service (I know, I know),
although I feel I know all the songs from various gigs. Certrainly by the
second one since December, I was able to sing along!

However, I got AL as soon as it was out, and wasn't too sure. There were
some amazing songs, but equally some more questionable ones. I wasn't sure
whether I preferred the two extremes, or an album (eg Glo) that's equally
good throughout. I think I've lent it to someone, however, as I no longer
have it.... !
Post by Dave Wood
And since I'm out of lurk mode, I'll contribute to the live album
debate. Access:d wins by a mile for me. L&ITC was good for its time,
but I never really felt it hung together all that well as an album,
and its now just a bit too out of date. D:Tour is great, but just not
enough on it. Access:d just has everything, sounds fantastic, and is
the closest you could ever get to capturing a d: gig on CD. Delirious?
live are a hundred times better than Delirious? on CD. But on Access:d
they come pretty close to giving you that amazing live experience.
And again, my live collection is pretty inconsequential... I have L&ITC,
and love it, but would agree completely with it being out-dated. I don't
own Access:D, but borrowed it for a while, and didn't get on to well with
it. It seemed a bit....pretentious - very much like they were putting on a
show. There's something genuine about L&ITC that just grabs me.

*shrugs* My humble opinion... !

Liz
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ziL
Dave Wood
2004-05-10 08:04:42 UTC
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I don't own Access:D, but borrowed it for a while, and didn't get on to well
with it. It seemed a bit....pretentious - very much like they were putting
on a show. There's something genuine about L&ITC that just grabs me.
Isn't that the point of a live album, to put on a show? For me,
Access:d is great because it gives you exactly what you get at a d:
gig. L&ITC did the same at the time of its release, but d: concerts
have changed a lot between then and now. I don't find Access:d
pretentious. I'm not really sure how you could say that about it,
since its just a recording (or several recordings) of their live
concerts. Unless you think that their concerts are pretentious? For me
its just an acurate rendition of how they perform some of their best
songs live. I do understand why people love L&ITC, it does have a
great atmosphere. But I think when you compare it to Access:d you can
hear that the band have moved on a long way - and have improved a lot
since those early days. But I guess some people just prefer that raw
feel that you get in the can.

DAVE!!
http://www.delirious.org.uk
[Scion]
2004-05-10 22:50:08 UTC
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Does ***@hotmail.com (Dave Wood) listen to pop music because he's
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Dave Wood
I don't own Access:D, but borrowed it for a while, and didn't get on
to well with it. It seemed a bit....pretentious - very much like
they were putting on a show. There's something genuine about L&ITC
that just grabs me.
Isn't that the point of a live album, to put on a show? For me,
gig.
Precisely.
Post by Dave Wood
L&ITC did the same at the time of its release, but d: concerts
have changed a lot between then and now. I don't find Access:d
pretentious. I'm not really sure how you could say that about it,
since its just a recording (or several recordings) of their live
concerts. Unless you think that their concerts are pretentious?
I don't think that's what he was saying at all. It's worth noting that
Delirious are entertainers. They are a rock band, and it's their job to
go onstage every night during a tour and put on a good show. And therein
lies the rub: for some people, "a good show" means working yourself up
into an emotional, worshipful frenzy, a la Darrell Evans or Chris Tomlin.
For others, "a good show" means seeing Delirious rock out and pogoing
down in front to your heart's content (or until your legs give out,
whichever comes first).

Myself, I prefer the latter. As do you, apparently. Other people,
particularly the older brand of D: fans, the ones who have been with the
band from the beginning, prefer the "honesty" of the earlier gigs. For
them, a D: show doesn't represent a rock show so much as a left-of-center
praise and worship service (to borrow a phrase from the back of the
Deeper compilation).
--
~Scion
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"The savior of rock and roll has to be able to write a tune that can
stick in your head for some reason other than the fact that it irritates
you."
--Dr. David Thorpe, SomethingAwful.com
Dave Wood
2004-05-11 08:20:50 UTC
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Myself, I prefer the latter. As do you, apparently. Other people,
particularly the older brand of D: fans, the ones who have been with the
band from the beginning, prefer the "honesty" of the earlier gigs. For
them, a D: show doesn't represent a rock show so much as a left-of-center
praise and worship service (to borrow a phrase from the back of the
Deeper compilation).
Well, I would consider myself one of the 'older brand of D: fans', as
you put it, in that I have followed the band's progress since they
became 'Delirious'. However, you are right that I too prefer to see
the band performing a rock show than a praise and worship event. To me
that is where their true skill and calling is. Matt Redman is very
good at leading worship events, but probably couldn't do a very good
job warming up the crowd for BonJovi. Delirious? on the other hand,
are truely able to compete with secular bands and don't look out of
place singing Christian songs in front of BonJovi fans. Yes d: are
also good at worship events - but my personal preference is to see
them in the secular arena.

Without wishing to offend anyone, the people who prefer to see d:
putting on a praise and worship service tend to be the people who
haven't really caught up with d: since they recorded Cutting Edge. Its
understandable that many people first hear of d: through songs like I
Could Sing and Lord You Have My Heart, because those are the songs
that get sung in churches. Those people probably get an enormous
culture shock if, on the back of singing those worship songs in
church, they decide to go to a d: gig only to discover on arrival that
it is a full scale rock concert and not a worship event!

DAVE!!
http://www.delirious.org.uk
ziL
2004-05-11 15:41:36 UTC
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Post by Dave Wood
Well, I would consider myself one of the 'older brand of D: fans', as
you put it, in that I have followed the band's progress since they
became 'Delirious'. However, you are right that I too prefer to see
the band performing a rock show than a praise and worship event. To me
that is where their true skill and calling is. Matt Redman is very
good at leading worship events, but probably couldn't do a very good
job warming up the crowd for BonJovi. Delirious? on the other hand,
are truely able to compete with secular bands and don't look out of
place singing Christian songs in front of BonJovi fans. Yes d: are
also good at worship events - but my personal preference is to see
them in the secular arena.
Agreed!
Post by Dave Wood
putting on a praise and worship service tend to be the people who
haven't really caught up with d: since they recorded Cutting Edge. Its
understandable that many people first hear of d: through songs like I
Could Sing and Lord You Have My Heart, because those are the songs
that get sung in churches. Those people probably get an enormous
culture shock if, on the back of singing those worship songs in
church, they decide to go to a d: gig only to discover on arrival that
it is a full scale rock concert and not a worship event!
Mm, I agree! My differentiation wasn't between a worship service and a rock
gig - I too love to jump around to them, and would feel a little awkward if
it were all worship.

However, I look for something deeper in my gigs - with everyone, not just
d:. I look for a bit of...I dunno....soul?

*laughs* Is it asking too much for music (and the performance of it) to go
back to having meaning, rather than having appeal? ;o)
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ziL
ziL
2004-05-11 15:38:46 UTC
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he's depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Dave Wood
I don't own Access:D, but borrowed it for a while, and didn't get on
to well with it. It seemed a bit....pretentious - very much like
they were putting on a show. There's something genuine about L&ITC
that just grabs me.
Isn't that the point of a live album, to put on a show? For me,
gig.
Precisely.
Mm, I think I meant a different meaning of the word genuine :o) I didn't
mean it sounded false, or in anyway invalid - rather, that it didn't sound
(to me - and who am I to comment(!)) as from-the-heart as the earlier stuff.
I'm not saying my view is at all Truth or that anyone else should agree with
me- was just my personal instant reaction :o)
Post by Dave Wood
L&ITC did the same at the time of its release, but d: concerts
have changed a lot between then and now. I don't find Access:d
pretentious. I'm not really sure how you could say that about it,
since its just a recording (or several recordings) of their live
concerts. Unless you think that their concerts are pretentious?
I don't think that's what he was saying at all. It's worth noting that
Delirious are entertainers. They are a rock band, and it's their job
to go onstage every night during a tour and put on a good show. And
therein lies the rub: for some people, "a good show" means working
yourself up into an emotional, worshipful frenzy, a la Darrell Evans
or Chris Tomlin. For others, "a good show" means seeing Delirious
rock out and pogoing down in front to your heart's content (or until
your legs give out, whichever comes first).
Mm, pretty much - not quite, but almost ;o)
Myself, I prefer the latter. As do you, apparently. Other people,
particularly the older brand of D: fans, the ones who have been with
the band from the beginning, prefer the "honesty" of the earlier
gigs. For them, a D: show doesn't represent a rock show so much as a
left-of-center praise and worship service (to borrow a phrase from
the back of the Deeper compilation).
Yeah - I don't think I am after either of those specific ends of the
spectrum. I appreciate that they're a band, and therefore have to put on a
show, however the difference between them and many others is that the songs
mean something tot them - they're not just mass-produced cack for the
mainstream market. Therefore, in a gig, I look for a bit of....oomph?
Feeling? would be the same with...say, Counting Crows, where every song
means something to him. And their gigs are phenomenal as a result.

You get this in a D:gig, yet I somehow didn't pick it up in Access:D - I
don't know why, as I KNOW it's all straight recordings. *shrugs*

Sorry!
--
ziL
[Scion]
2004-05-07 07:17:35 UTC
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depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all (and keep in mind it is
SIGNIFICANTLY different from 'Touch'), so I have nothing more to say. ^_^
How significantly? Does the mood of the album change from AL to Touch?
Touch, for me, seems to be the 'Pop' of the Delirious canon. It has
arguably the only Delirious sound that doesn't work: that of a buzzing
UFO. The songs themselves are fantastic, it's just the effects and
production that needs help.

Being a U2 fan, I can't help but draw parallels between Delirious' career
and U2's, so here's how I basically look at their musical development:

Delirious | U2
----------
Cutting Edge | Boy/October
Live And In The Can | Under A Blood Red Sky
King Of Fools | War/Unforgettable Fire
Mezzamorphis | Achtung Baby
GLO | Joshua Tree
Audio Lessonover?/Touch | Zooropa/Pop
Access:d | Rattle And Hum
World Service | All That You Can't Leave Behind

The development isn't exactly the same, and the albums don't quite line
up, but it helps me if I organize it that way. Mostly because Touch is an
album of brilliantly intimate songs tragically marred by overambitious
production, much the same as U2's 'Pop'. Lining everything up like that
makes Touch easier to swallow.

It just seems so out of place. I mean, I'm all for experimentation and
new sounds...but something just didn't *work* with Touch. Did they pull
it off better in AL?
--
~Scion
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"The savior of rock and roll has to be able to write a tune that can
stick in your head for some reason other than the fact that it irritates
you."
--Dr. David Thorpe, SomethingAwful.com
Trevour
2004-05-08 03:30:04 UTC
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depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by Trevour
AL? is still my favorite d:album out of them all (and keep in mind it
is
Post by Trevour
SIGNIFICANTLY different from 'Touch'), so I have nothing more to say.
^_^
How significantly? Does the mood of the album change from AL to Touch?
Touch, for me, seems to be the 'Pop' of the Delirious canon. It has
arguably the only Delirious sound that doesn't work: that of a buzzing
UFO. The songs themselves are fantastic, it's just the effects and
production that needs help.
There are several factors - which I could try to explain here, but it'd be
best to listen to both albums in their entirety, and you will definitely
know. But simply put, the tracklistings are different between both, and
'Touch' contains newly-recorded versions of some of the AL? tracks. AL?
also has tracks not found on 'Touch.' See here:

'Audio Lessonover?' tracklist:
01. Waiting For The Summer
02. Take Me Away
03. Love Is The Compass
04. Alien
05. Angel In Disguise
06. Rollercoaster
07. Fire
08. There Is An Angel
09. Bicycle Gasoline
10. A Little Love
11. Show Me Heaven
12. America
13. Stealing Time
14. Making Art (hidden track)

'Touch' tracklist:
01. Touch
02. Love Is The Compass (new version)
03. Fire
04. Alien
05. Angel In Disguise
06. Rollercoaster
07. Show Me Heaven
08. Take Me Away
09. Waiting For The Summer (new version)
10. Stealing Time
Post by [Scion]
Being a U2 fan, I can't help but draw parallels between Delirious' career
Delirious | U2
----------
Cutting Edge | Boy/October
Live And In The Can | Under A Blood Red Sky
King Of Fools | War/Unforgettable Fire
Mezzamorphis | Achtung Baby
GLO | Joshua Tree
Audio Lessonover?/Touch | Zooropa/Pop
Access:d | Rattle And Hum
World Service | All That You Can't Leave Behind
The development isn't exactly the same, and the albums don't quite line
up, but it helps me if I organize it that way. Mostly because Touch is an
album of brilliantly intimate songs tragically marred by overambitious
production, much the same as U2's 'Pop'. Lining everything up like that
makes Touch easier to swallow.
Funny thing, 'Pop' is my favorite U2 album by far. ^_^ 'Zooropa' is a tight
second.
Post by [Scion]
It just seems so out of place. I mean, I'm all for experimentation and
new sounds...but something just didn't *work* with Touch. Did they pull
it off better in AL?
Again, you'd have to listen to AL? yourself, and form your own conclusions.
For me, listening to 'Touch' for the first time was like listening to a
hacked up version of AL?. It felt rather incomplete after being used to AL?
for so long. But 'Touch' is still a great album... of course you're just
missing out on some spectacular songs if you don't have AL?.

Trevour
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Tim Scott
2004-05-03 11:32:34 UTC
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Hey guys, I'm not exactly new to the group, but I've only lurked before
this post...so lemme just go ahead and introduce myself. I'm Scion, and
I've been following Delirious for about four years now. I got into them
because I'm a huge U2 fan and I had a friend who compared them favorably
to his favorite band at the time, Delirious. He played Mezzamorphis for
me and I was hooked, immediately. That's still my favorite album of
theirs.
Anyway, enough rambling about me. I need your help. I'm trying to pass
the Delirious love along, so I'm making a sampler CD for one of my
friends. I have a rough tracklist, but it seems to be missing some oomph.
I dunno, I just don't feel like I'm channeling the D: spirit well enough.
Maybe you guys could suggest some live tracks I could work into it?
1. Feel It Coming On
2. God's Romance
3. I'm Not Ashamed [from Deeper compilation]
4. Deeper 99 [the orig. version's lost its freshness, for me]
5. It's OK
6. Mountains High
7. Sanctify
8. Rain Down
9. Gravity
10. Bliss [live from Access: D]
11. My Glorious
12. History Maker
13. I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever [Deeper version]
14. Pride (In The Name Of Love) [from ITNOL: Artist United For Africa]
15. Jesus' Blood
16. Touch [demo from Roaring Lambs compilation]
I'm skewing it too heavily towards Mezza, but that's okay because Mezza
got pretty much overlooked in the Deeper collection. I'll expand this to
a double-disc set if you guys can give me some good ideas.
If you're wanting live stuff, then you need "Live and in the can" ... blows
the socks off Access:d
[Scion]
2004-05-04 02:06:10 UTC
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because he's depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop
music?
Post by Tim Scott
If you're wanting live stuff, then you need "Live and in the can" ...
blows the socks off Access:d
I'm guessing that you're an old-school D fan who thinks Cutting Edge and
King Of Fools represent their best work, am I right?

I have both LAITC and Access:d and I have to disagree with you. LAITC was
put out when Delirious barely knew how to play. The versions of Did You
Feel The Mountains Tremble and What A Friend I've Found that were
included with the US Touch album kick LAITC's live tracks any day of the
week. Plus, Access:d has tracks that LAITC doesn't, so it's not really a
fair comparison.

That brings up an interesting point though. Does anyone here know how
d:Tour fares when stacked up against Access:d? I'm trying to decide
whether to shell out the $$ for d:Tour or just make do with what I've
got.
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--Bill Flanagan

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Tim Scott
2004-05-04 07:05:04 UTC
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Post by [Scion]
because he's depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop
music?
Post by Tim Scott
If you're wanting live stuff, then you need "Live and in the can" ...
blows the socks off Access:d
I'm guessing that you're an old-school D fan who thinks Cutting Edge and
King Of Fools represent their best work, am I right?
I have both LAITC and Access:d and I have to disagree with you. LAITC was
put out when Delirious barely knew how to play. The versions of Did You
Feel The Mountains Tremble and What A Friend I've Found that were
included with the US Touch album kick LAITC's live tracks any day of the
week. Plus, Access:d has tracks that LAITC doesn't, so it's not really a
fair comparison.
That brings up an interesting point though. Does anyone here know how
d:Tour fares when stacked up against Access:d? I'm trying to decide
whether to shell out the $$ for d:Tour or just make do with what I've
got.
I have been a D: fan since the beginning, but i do not think that that the
early stuff necessarily represents their best work.
I just think that musically, vocally, and production wise that LAINC is
better than access:d, which just feels like a d: demo CD.
[Scion]
2004-05-05 03:08:24 UTC
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Does "Tim Scott" <***@nospam.orange.net> listen to pop music
because he's depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop
music?
Post by Tim Scott
I have been a D: fan since the beginning, but i do not think that that
the early stuff necessarily represents their best work.
I just think that musically, vocally, and production wise that LAINC
is better than access:d, which just feels like a d: demo CD.
Again, I have to disagree. Access:d is more intense, more charismatic,
and more musically accomplished than LAINC. LAINC didn't have any moments
like the one on Access:d's version of "I Will Follow" where Martin
suddenly switches over to the hallelujah's of "White Ribbon Day" during
the bridge. That moment recalled U2's Rattle And Hum performance of
"Bad", where Bono sings the Rolling Stones' "Ruby Tuesday" and "Sympathy
For The Devil" over the bridge of that song. The effect on the audience
was priceless in both cases.

And what about the intro solo and bridge solo to "Bliss" on Access:d?
Show me a moment like *that* on LAINC. Show me a moment like Access:d's
spoken-word intro to a very punked-up "Happy Song" on LAINC. Or a
"lighter moment" like you find on "Love Is The Compass", "Rain Down", or
"Jesus' Blood". Or a moment of pure, intense community and fellowship
like on "Dance In The River".
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~Scion
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"One man's creative laboratory is another man's license to wank."
--Bill Flanagan

scion238 AT phreaker DOT net
[Scion]
2004-05-31 23:21:15 UTC
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Guys,

For those who are still interested, I finished my friend's Delirious
retrospective. I had to expand it to 2 discs because I was leaving too
many of my favorites off of the single disc set.

DISC I
1. Feel It Coming On
2. God's Romance
3. I'm Not Ashamed [from Deeper compilation]
4. Deeper [live]
5. It's OK
6. Mountains High
7. Sanctify
8. Rain Down
9. Gravity
10. Bliss [live]
11. My Glorious
12. History Maker
13. I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever [Deeper version]
14. Pride (In The Name Of Love) [from ITNOL: Artists United For Africa]
15. Follow / White Ribbon Day [live]
16. Jesus' Blood
17. Touch [Roaring Lambs demo]

DISC II
1. Did You Feel The Mountains Tremble?
2. Come, Like You Promise [studio version]
3. Promise
4. See The Star
5. Everything [live]
6. Love Is The Compass
7. Inside Outside
8. Fire
9. Everyone Knows
10. Revival Town [orig. version]
11. The Happy Song [live]
12. Lord You Have My Heart [Deeper version]
13. Kiss Your Feet
15. Investigate
16. Majesty (Here I Am)
17. What Would I Have Done?
18. Not Forgotten

All the live tracks are from Access: D (sorry, Tim), and I had to edit
down DYFTMT?, along with basically any track I took from GLO (My
Glorious, WWIHD?, God's Romance, among others); but since I had to drop
fadeouts into the stuff I took from Access: D, I didn't think much of it.

What do you guys think?
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~Scion
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"The savior of rock and roll has to be able to write a tune that can
stick in your head for some reason other than the fact that it irritates
you."
--Dr. David Thorpe, SomethingAwful.com
ziL
2004-06-01 13:43:56 UTC
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[Scion] wrote:

<snips the good stuff>
Post by [Scion]
What do you guys think?
Where do I sign?! ;o)
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ziL
[Scion]
2004-06-02 02:19:54 UTC
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Does "ziL" <***@NotReal.Nope> listen to pop music because he's
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by ziL
<snips the good stuff>
Post by [Scion]
What do you guys think?
Where do I sign?! ;o)
*L* I take it you want a copy?
--
~Scion
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"The savior of rock and roll has to be able to write a tune that can
stick in your head for some reason other than the fact that it irritates
you."
--Dr. David Thorpe, SomethingAwful.com
ziL
2004-06-02 08:54:00 UTC
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Post by [Scion]
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by ziL
<snips the good stuff>
Post by [Scion]
What do you guys think?
Where do I sign?! ;o)
*L* I take it you want a copy?
*grins* Nah, I have most the albums... Was just expressing my appreciation
of a good mix, however!
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ziL
[Scion]
2004-06-03 07:30:44 UTC
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Does "ziL" <***@NotReal.Nope> listen to pop music because he's
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by ziL
Post by [Scion]
depressed, or is he depressed because he listens to pop music?
Post by ziL
<snips the good stuff>
Post by [Scion]
What do you guys think?
Where do I sign?! ;o)
*L* I take it you want a copy?
*grins* Nah, I have most the albums... Was just expressing my
appreciation of a good mix, however!
Cool. Thanks for the...uh, support, I guess. ^_~
--
~Scion
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"The savior of rock and roll has to be able to write a tune that can
stick in your head for some reason other than the fact that it irritates
you."
--Dr. David Thorpe, SomethingAwful.com
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