Discussion:
Protect yourself against Operation Sudden Fall
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nick markowitz
2008-05-10 13:08:23 UTC
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You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy

besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the
encryption keys for those programs already.
Law enforcement is now intercepting text messages,
as proven by Operation Sudden Fall in San Diego.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/sd050608.html
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20080506-1338-bn06sdsu2.html
Don't let your personal SMS/text messages fall into
the wrong hands. Encrypt your messages with one
http://www.CryptoSMS.org
http://www.CryptoSMS.com
http://www.FortressMail.net/fortress_sms.htm
http://www.Cop2p.com/encrypted_sms.html
Be Safe, Be Encrypted, Fuck the Police!!
--
As maybe as Marla deserts, you can belong the repetition much more
shrilly.
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 13:41:33 UTC
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Post by nick markowitz
You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy
He's just looking for suckers to buy his useless software.
Post by nick markowitz
besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the
encryption keys for those programs already.
The software probably doesn't do anything at all. Spammers never sell
anything useful.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Joe
2008-05-10 14:19:21 UTC
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Post by Robert L Bass
Post by nick markowitz
You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy
He's just looking for suckers to buy his useless software.
Post by nick markowitz
besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the
encryption keys for those programs already.
The software probably doesn't do anything at all. Spammers never sell
anything useful.
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
alarman
2008-05-10 15:41:18 UTC
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Post by Joe
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under
the constitution.
--
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.
Joe
2008-05-10 15:52:14 UTC
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Post by alarman
Post by Joe
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under
the constitution.
rights to do what?
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 18:00:34 UTC
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Post by Joe
rights to do what?
The US Bill of Rights.

- Amendment I
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The Bush Administration, though it's support for so-called faith-based
initiatives, has violated the spirit and the ;etter of the First Amendment.
This is no small matter, for in our system of governemt all groups are
entitled equal rights. Want to see your tax dollars supporting Muslim,
Buddhist and Mormon groups?

- Amendment II
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Despite pleas from law enforcement at all levels, the Bush Administration
allowed rules pertaining to assault weapons to lapse in a lblatant effort to
pander to gun manufacturers and the NRA.

- Amendment III
"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the
consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by
law."

Unfortunately, the Bush Administration and those preceding it have pretty much
abandoned "the troops", leaving them without proper medical, social and
economic support. That this has been done to _wounded_ American soldiers is a
disgrace. That Bush, who went AWOL like the coward he is, used a bunch of
lying scoundrels to denegrate the heroics of a true war hero, John Kerry, in
order to ensure a second term as Idiot in Chief, is despicable.

- Amendment IV
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized."

Bush has ordered surreptitious wire taps against innocent American citizens at
home and abroad. His administration has so violated the Fourth Amendment as
to render it inoperative. The excuse is that they're fighting "Al Quadi and
other extremists" but they're really trying to run a dictatorship. Someone
has said that the primary distinction between dictatorships and free
democratic governements is that in a democracy government has a hard time
collecting information about the people and the people find it easy to see
what government is doing. Further, in a dictatorship government spies on the
people but the people have difficulty discovering what government is doing.
The Bush II Administration is by far the most secretive in all US history, far
worse than Nixon. Even the Congress is unable to get information on Bush's
lawbreaking.

- Amendment V
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising
in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time
of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense
to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any
criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property
be taken for public use, without just compensation."

The Bush Administration has taken foreign nationals prisoner, transported them
to American soil and held them for years without benefit of legal counsel or
opportunity to have charges read to them. Furthermore, the Bush
administration has tortured hundreds, possibly thousands of prisoners --
violating international law and every sense of decency. In the process, this
Administration has virtually guaranteed that sooner or later we will face a
terrorist attack that will kill millions of Americans.

- Amendment VI
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy
and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the
crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously
ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the
accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have
compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the
assistance of counsel for his defense."

See comments regarding Amendment V above.

- Amendment VII
"In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty
dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a
jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than
according to the rules of the common law."

This one he seems to have left intact. I guess he missed.

- Amendment VIII
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel
and unusual punishments inflicted."

See Amendment V above.

- Amendment XII
"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for
President and Vice-President...."

In 2000 Bush stole the election. The people elected Gore.
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Robert L Bass

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alarman
2008-05-10 20:55:30 UTC
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Post by Joe
Post by alarman
Post by Joe
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights
under the constitution.
rights to do what?
Your rights under the fourth ammendment, in this case.
--
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 16:33:23 UTC
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Post by alarman
Post by Joe
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under
the constitution.
Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our
constitutional right under the Bush administration. A few regular ASA posters
support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe he's trying to fight
terrorists. In fact, he and his cronies are in it for power and money and
nothing else. Meanwhile this administration has done absolutely nothing of
value to protect our nation. Instead, they have done everything possible to
enrage these nut-cases. When Al Qaida or some other bunch of loonies finally
does get their hands on a nuclear bomb and sets it off in one of our ports,
people like that will march us into a dictatorship and think they've done a
good thing.
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================>
Joe
2008-05-10 16:37:07 UTC
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Post by Robert L Bass
Post by alarman
Post by Joe
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights
under the constitution.
Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of
our constitutional right under the Bush administration. A few regular
ASA posters support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe
he's trying to fight terrorists. In fact, he and his cronies are in it
for power and money and nothing else. Meanwhile this administration has
done absolutely nothing of value to protect our nation. Instead, they
have done everything possible to enrage these nut-cases. When Al Qaida
or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear
bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us
into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.
There is no constitutional right to break the law. can we see who is
doing illegal stuff. alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what
they are texting. wonder why?
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 18:03:30 UTC
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There is no constitutional right to break the law. can we see who is doing
illegal stuff. alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what they are
texting. wonder why?
Heh, heh, heh. I don't use text messaging services.
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
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Mark Leuck
2008-05-10 21:56:42 UTC
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Post by Joe
There is no constitutional right to break the law. can we see who is
doing illegal stuff. alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what
they are texting. wonder why?
alarman is nothing but trouble, you can tell it in his eyes
alarman
2008-05-10 22:27:38 UTC
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Post by Joe
There is no constitutional right to break the law.
What an idiotic statement that is. Do you think you're being clever?

There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and
seizure.
Post by Joe
can we see who is doing illegal stuff. alarman and Bass don't want uncle
sam to know
what they are texting. wonder why?
Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's business. And
without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a judge, they have no
right. Back to school for you, or are you one of those canadian schmucks who
has laid down and spread your legs for the government?
--
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.
Joe
2008-05-11 01:52:26 UTC
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alarman wrote:
you're being clever

thank u
Post by alarman
There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and
seizure.
nothing unreasonable about reading text messages of criminals.
Post by alarman
Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's business. And
without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a judge, they have no
right. Back to school for you, or are you one of those canadian schmucks who
has laid down and spread your legs for the government?
if you think u have privacy in your electronic communications you are
just being naive. besides if it comes down to stopping San Fran from
being blown up by a nuke or reading bass text messages I .... oh never mind.
alarman
2008-05-11 06:55:07 UTC
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Post by alarman
you're being clever
thank u
Post by alarman
There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and
seizure.
nothing unreasonable about reading text messages of criminals.
Post by alarman
Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's
business. And without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a
judge, they have no right. Back to school for you, or are you one of
those canadian schmucks who has laid down and spread your legs for
the government?
if you think u have privacy in your electronic communications you are
just being naive. besides if it comes down to stopping San Fran from
being blown up by a nuke or reading bass text messages I .... oh never mind.
Eye on the ball, joe.

Whether or not the government intercepts my private communications is beside
the point I was making; that it's because of the cavalier attitudes of
people like you, with regard to the sanctity of the constitution, which has
led to the erosion of our rights.

That said, I could actually live without San Francisco.
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js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.
Joe
2008-05-10 19:46:07 UTC
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Post by Robert L Bass
Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of
our constitutional right under the Bush administration. A few regular
ASA posters support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe
he's trying to fight terrorists. In fact, he and his cronies are in it
for power and money and nothing else. Meanwhile this administration has
done absolutely nothing of value to protect our nation. Instead, they
have done everything possible to enrage these nut-cases. When Al Qaida
or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear
bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us
into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.
as long as GW is the 'tater.:)
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 21:39:43 UTC
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Post by Joe
as long as GW is the 'tater.:)
He's a puppet. His corporate sponsors pay up and Chaney pulls the strings.
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
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Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================>
Mark Leuck
2008-05-10 21:58:23 UTC
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Post by Robert L Bass
Post by Joe
as long as GW is the 'tater.:)
He's a puppet. His corporate sponsors pay up and Chaney pulls the strings.
--
Regards,
Robert L Bass
It helps when you correctly spell the name of the guy who supposedly pulls
the strings
Robert L Bass
2008-05-10 23:01:09 UTC
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Post by Mark Leuck
... Chaney pulls the strings.
It helps when you correctly spell the name of the guy who supposedly pulls
the strings
Doh! :^)
Nomen Nescio
2008-05-11 00:20:04 UTC
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Post by Robert L Bass
When Al Qaida
Post by Robert L Bass
or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear
bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us
into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.
as long as GW is the 'tater.:)
As in, dick-tater? No question he's a dick. As to the 'tater part, I
think the potatos of the world will take offense at the comparison.
Mark Leuck
2008-05-10 21:54:53 UTC
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Oh I thought this was an "I've fallen and can't get up" thread
Law enforcement is now intercepting text messages,
as proven by Operation Sudden Fall in San Diego.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/sd050608.html
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20080506-1338-bn06sdsu2.html
Don't let your personal SMS/text messages fall into
the wrong hands. Encrypt your messages with one
http://www.CryptoSMS.org
http://www.CryptoSMS.com
http://www.FortressMail.net/fortress_sms.htm
http://www.Cop2p.com/encrypted_sms.html
Be Safe, Be Encrypted, Fuck the Police!!
--
As maybe as Marla deserts, you can belong the repetition much more
shrilly.
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